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DaPower·9/16/2012 in Miscellany Board

What a Brütal Legend Sequel NEEDS

As the capitals might indicate, this is what a Brütal Legend sequel needs. Not needs as in "what I would really like to see (like more factions)". Needs as in needs.

Player-Proof

Not just in Brütal Legend, but all sandbox games (I'm looking at you Skyrim). This needs to be a priority, having a player-proofed world should be a requirement, not a feature.

It's one thing when you're stuck in an area you can't get out of, in Brütal Legend you can just play Summon Deuce and voila, you're alright. In Skyrim you can just fast travel. It's different when you're on an apparently permanent slope... while not actually moving down. That requires a game reload, which is ridiculous.

Jump

Now yes, I know the lack of jump button is rendered obsolete in Stage Battles, giving the Avatar the ability to fly, but what about exploring? Y'know that other part of the game?

It doesn't even need to be a huge jump, or even need to affect combat, but when I cannot run up a pretty gentle slope when all I require is a teeny tiny jump, then leaving the only option being summoning my car and driving it awkwardly up the hill is plain annoying.

Scavenger Hunts

For this point I'll leave you with the wise words of Yahtzee:

"There are a lot of upgrades, army commands and important story elements that have to be searched for throughout the game world. Would it not make sense to give me these things as a reward for my playing skills rather than my willingness to waste hours of my free time blindly wandering around the overworld hoping to trip over a present?"

Also:

"Will I one day be refused the straight line block in Tetris until I've journeyed to the Zalgoth plains and recovered the fifty Sacred Horse Bollocks?"

Well said Yahtzee well said.

PC Gaming

C'mon Double Fine we're getting there, you're releasing more and more of your games on the awesome that is Steam, while this is cool, this needs to evolve. A Brütal Legend sequel needs to also be born on PC/Mac and consoles at the same time. Also guys releasing Brütal Legend on PC/Mac soon would be pretty cool kthxbai.

Thoughts?

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2ks4·9/16/2012

Agreed on player-proofing. I can't remember which game it was, but one had a button specifically for those situations that would kind of jog you a few feet back towards the proper playable area to "unstick" you.

I think the lack of a jump button is a developer's way of making things a little easier for themselves by not having to test and verify every location where a player shouldn't go to make sure they can't just jump over the barrier that was put to block their progress.

I don't mind well-designed, non-excessive scavenger hunts. Unlocking songs for the Mouth of Metal was a little odd, though, since the songs are to be played in-game, but there are so many that I ended up unlocking many of them after I was already done with the campaign.

I would really like to see what Valve did with Portal 2 be replicated with other games. Specifically, when I bought the PS3 version of Portal 2, I automatically got the Mac/PC versions via Steam as part of the same purchase. Obviously Valve is in a special situation there, but I would love for them to make that an option for Brütal Legend 2, etc.

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DaPower·9/17/2012

With the scavenger hunt, I didn't mind searching for songs either, but I should still earn powers and backstory from playing the game y'know?

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The Milkman·9/18/2012

Spot on. These things would make the most metal game ever even more awesome.

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Rikusorakairiown·9/21/2012

It needs to EXIST DAMNIT ;_;

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The Milkman·9/21/2012

Hell yeah!

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Rikusorakairiown·9/21/2012

also wasn't the lack of a jump button becuase you were originally inteded to use the flying ability outside of stage battles and it was just that they ran into a problem with you flying faster than the game could render leading to you hitting the draw distance, so they had to limit it to stage battles only?

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DaPower·9/21/2012

Ooh really? That's pretty interesting. That's another thing they should work on for a sequel.

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ImmortalCorvus·3/8/2020

Here would be my personal thoughts about a sequel:

More Factions

No game in the Brutal Legend franchise would be complete if sequels to the primogenitor installment didn't have more factions to choose from. It wouldn't make sense to have just three factions for every single installment in the franchise. Personally, I'd like to see MANY factions, each one representing a different genre of metal of course. Hands down I'd like to see Lionwhyte as a playable faction of course, but as for other potential factions, if DoubleFine does this franchise justice, perhaps they can represent genres that aren't even metal (like a Pop/Rap/Electronica faction with a cyberpunk/alien theme). I'd also like each faction to have its own singleplayer campaign just like Ironheade does in the first installment. And taking a page from the game C&C Kane's Wrath, I would also like each main faction to have two or more sub-factions to choose from.

Generals

As stated above, I would like to see more factions in a Brutal Legend sequel. But no faction or subfaction would be complete without a General to lead them. In this case, subfactions would have different Generals and different solos for them. Imagine having a subfaction of Ironheade led by Lita or the Kill Master.

Generals would also be able to attack while in flying mode, which will play in very nicely with the new unit type I'd like to see in a sequel.

New Unit Types

In keeping with the idea that Generals should be able to attack whilst in flying mode, I would like to see flying units. They can only be attacked by ranged ground units or by other flying units, for which there will be melee and ranged just like ground units. Some flying units will be treated as infantry whilst others will be considered vehicles. I'd also like to see maps where you can only build flying units, like a map consisting of floating sky-islands.

Burrowing units, which can burrow under enemy lines to attack whatever they're protecting (like a Merch Booth or stage). You can't attack burrowed units while underground, but I can envision them being used as building-destroyers.

...And finally transporter units, where you can load up units inside them and ferry them around the battlefield. These would sync nicely with the airborne maps where you would rely on them to fly your units from island to island to capture fan geysers or attack victory points and the enemy stage. The drawback being that transport units would be very mediocre as offensive units themselves, and if they are destroyed, so will any units they are carrying.

Expanded Unit Upgrades

The unit upgrade system in the first game was mediocre. I'd like to see a more fleshed-out system of upgrading your units, like say an upgrade for the Headsplitter that fires a homing missile, or an upgrade for the Organist that turns it into an MLRS truck (shooting Eyes of Sorrow vertically from its organ pipes of course).

Uber Units

In keeping with the new unit types introduced, each faction should have three Uber Units that require a max-level stage: one infantry, one vehicle, one air unit. They would be the same for the faction and its subfactions and you can have only one at a time.

More Structures

You should be able to build defensive structures and traps like minefields and palisades to impede advancing armies, as well as towers to combat the various unit types. And also have support structures that you can garrison units in, as well as provide buffs and debuffs.

What do you think?